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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>20bits - Latest Comments in Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://20bits.disqus.com/two_models_of_behavior_adoption_in_social_networks/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:49:40 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-172714051</link><description>&lt;p&gt;social networking good medium to communicate...&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Desktop computers</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 06:49:40 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-172314871</link><description>&lt;p&gt;social networking make ourself familier to other person.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Desktop computers</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:02:28 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-170811644</link><description>&lt;p&gt;social networikg is very good for our.. we can share moments with others globly and its totally free....&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Desktop computers</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 06:29:25 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-102404553</link><description>&lt;p&gt;So let me understand this - Facebook grew by having a set of people from each college bugging Facebook to open up to them so that the entire college would eventually get on board.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On that token, they wouldn't be considered to be 'innovators' then, would they? This is taking into light the definition describing innovators as the top 1% that wouldn't want to be part of something non-innovators were clearly going to be part of.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Kas</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 02:21:37 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-61854967</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I never thought of actually using mathematics to describe the Facebook/Twitter phenomena but I do appreciate you doing it. I joined these social networks mostly because I needed to gather some contacts. I managed to find a lot of my high school friends and they're scattered all over the world. At this point, Twitter isn't helping me much but who knows. Anyway, I started commenting on photos and adding "likes" to all sort of things mainly because other friends were doing this to my pictures and links. So I am acting like my peers.&lt;br&gt;Darcy Kitchin @ &lt;a href="http://www.webfusion.co.uk/virtual-private-servers/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.webfusion.co.uk/virtual-private-servers/"&gt;Windows virtual server&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">DarcyKitchin</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:25:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-51016923</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree to Jason &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">data recovery</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 03:53:39 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-49016735</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Question. What kind of viral growth model does &lt;a href="http://www.dirtyphonebook.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.dirtyphonebook.com"&gt;http://www.dirtyphonebook.com&lt;/a&gt; fit into? The "insult all of your users just for kicks" model?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">GlennLEU</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:19:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-15948052</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Very confusing post.  Not sure I quite soaked in all that info.  Can someone elaborate?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.makingmoneyatyourhouse.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.makingmoneyatyourhouse.com"&gt;google bizkit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">JaySmith</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:10:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8742787</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I do have some formal models for this, but I'm not aware of any that have been published -- if you run across any I'd be interested to hear about it. The models I have are what we use to drive our "social context" software, and so we don't really give them out. :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In both social and neural cases, there are interesting blends of all-or-nothing and smooth ramps of transmission.  Any given neuron fires or doesn't, but can fire with different intensity -- and it can have a variable excitatory or inhibitory effect on other neurons.  Similarly, someone can pass an opinion to someone else (or not), and then there are several other factors that come into play: how strong is the opinion, and how much does the receiver believe it.  Then there are things like personality factors that moderate whether the receiver acts on the information and/or tells others about it, which starts the cycle over again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At a simple level, you need to have people tell more than one person about a cool new idea or product to give it virality.  How much more than 1 depends on the other probabilities -- but higher values increase spread quickly.  &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mike Sellers</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:06:20 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8717575</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting.  I'm working on a viral growth visualization project and was describing it to people as a sea of neurons.  Diffusion of information or behaviors in the social network follows a lot of the same principles, as I understand it, e.g., all-or-nothing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do you have any information about actual formal models of these phenomena?  The more math the better!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And thanks so much for the comment — really awesome.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jesse Farmer</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:56:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8672925</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Without going to physical statistical models (though they're a good place to go), I see both the threshold and cascade as variants of the same underlying mechanism as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The random factor in the cascade model exists as part of the model only because we do not know the weight of an individual relationship in terms of its degree of influence.  Put another way, if the weight in threshold model is described as a probability [0,1] that an individual will follow the influencing person's lead, then we can aggregate all such influences (not necessarily by simple addition) to describe the threshold and cascade function.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To make that more specific, if three guys at work extol a particular idea, they will each have a variable effect (based on your trust in their opinion -- it's not random) on whether you start thinking positively about this idea as well.  The aggregation matters: if you think highly of two of them and detest the third, the probability is less than if you trusted the opinions of all three.  If however another far more influential person (a well-known blogger or celebrity) also extolled that position, that influence would have a disproportionate effect on your opinion commensurate with your trust in that person's opinion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The mechanism bears a significant similarity to dendritic summation in neurons and probably other similar phenomena; it's not restricted to social contexts.  Variable weight inputs aggregate in terms of their influence or effect, encompassing both what you have called cascade and threshold.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, it's also worth noting that (as in neurons :) ) the *absence* of input can be important too -- this is likely part of what drives early adopters.  For them, getting high-influence input from a few trusted individuals isn't sufficient to trip the threshold; there must also be a lack of ambient input.  That is, if everyone else is already doing it, the early adopter loses interest.  The variance in reliance on a few high-trust inputs without ambient input or many more ambient low-trust inputs describes the spectrum from early adopter to laggard in any population.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mike Sellers</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:58:41 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8670164</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Indeed, and thanks for taking the time to read and comment!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Celebrities and the like are an interesting phenomenon in social networks.  They are always highly connected, moreso on directional SNs like Twitter and MySpace, but the extent to which they are influenced or cause influence are much more ambiguous.  Their effect on behavioral and opinion dynamics is probably a research topic all in itself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And I actually wrote a Ruby script to generate BA graphs just the other day!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jesse Farmer</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:26:43 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8669890</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Good article.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One feature you may be missing is preferential attachment. Celebrities like scooble and oprah have drawn in a huge volume of twitter users. Myspace had similar dynamics due to bands in it's early days. The growth of graphs under preferential attachment is formalized and it's characteristics mostly well known:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barab" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barab"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...&lt;/a&gt;ási-Albert_model&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">jasonwatkinspdx</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:12:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8666433</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, both "models" are simple forms of an Ising system (paramagnetic and ferromagnetic). The Threshold is the coupling to an external field and Wuj are the couplings between nearest neighbors along the edges of the network. Research in similar models (mostly in the context of magnetism) has been on-going since the 20s (see &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ising_Model" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ising_Model"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...&lt;/a&gt; )&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Guest</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:41:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8662750</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting.  I don't know anything about statistical mechanics.  Can you elaborate?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jesse Farmer</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:43:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8662209</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Cindy,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good point.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The way I see most social networks (and social apps) growing is by bootstrapping through the cascade model, until they're dense enough in their parent network that they become self-sustaining and threshold psychology becomes the dominant factor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The risk with being too aggressive with invites early on is that you never build up the density to become self-sustaining.  By promoting early adopters and keeping them engaged, you can help foster the core density from which your social network can grow organically.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;FWIW, although Facebook bootstrapped by spamming everyone in Harvard, they grew with the threshold model in mind from day one.  As I understand it they never even considered signing up a new campus until there were at least 40 people from that campus requesting accounts.  And they started with smaller campuses where density as easier to create and sustain.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jesse Farmer</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:34:34 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8661875</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Is it possible that these are the same model?  The transition from one model to the other sounds a lot like the phase transition studied by statistical physicists (e.g., Ising models).&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mike</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:22:50 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Two Models of Behavior Adoption in Social Networks</title><link>http://20bits.com/articles/two-models-of-behavior-adoption-in-social-networks/#comment-8661554</link><description>&lt;p&gt;You explicitly said that this doesn't include innovators, but I think that's an important thing to consider.&lt;br&gt;The very earliest adopters aren't trying a new thing because they have some percentage of friends using it; rather, the motivation is that they DON'T know anyone using it yet.  They want to be able to be part of that first 1%, to be the originator of the trend.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is this important? Because, as the provider of the social network, it's in your interest to build in a way to recognize these innovator/pioneers.  Offering something equivalent to "a low ICQ number" or marking the user's avatar can drive these initial innovators, which, in turn, creates the 5% necessary to start the Threshold condition.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">cindyalvarez</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:11:46 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>